Hello, i would like to buy a first 3d printer, i don t need incredible quality I saw this, what do you think: Geeetech Mizar Stampante 3D DIY TMC2208 1.75mm PLA 220 *220*260mm Stampante 3D | eBay Or http://www.ebay.it/itm/351857896815

I would google the printers for reviews until your fingers hurt. Search on here also. Look for things in common on issues people may talk about. Some issues are not a big deal while others may be real bad.

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I think it also depends on your personal technical abilities. Are you good with electronics and troubleshooting? In that case a kit may be ok, but you will want to do a lot of reading first on the particular model you end up with because some of them ship with unsafe firmware and/or part design and are a fire hazard out of the box.

If you don’t want to tinker a bunch with the actual printer (at least, no more than a standard printer) and just want something that will work pretty well out of the box with decent quality prints, then I would recommend looking to spend a bit more and getting a more complete package with a reputable manufacturer backing it with support.

I am not saying you can’t make those kits work, but I probably wouldn’t recommend them to someone just getting into 3d printing unless you do a lot of research first.

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I would be careful with cheap printers. There are stories of some cheap printers catching on fire. I have the Monoprice Mini Select and for the price you can’t beat it. And there is a big community on Facebook and Reddit to answer questions when you run into problems

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I have a good experience with electronics and diy, i decided to go for the greentech prusa i3 a lot of people made it working out of the box (after the mounting)!!

For the money you can’t beat a select mini to start. It runs out of the box, parts and upgrades are cheap, the community is large and helpful and you can learn a lot of fixes on a smaller scale.

I didn t find it shipped for a reasonable price to italy, i can take the greentech prusa i3 for 160€ shipping included, and i think that i would need more than 12x12cm of printable plate

Of course one of the most famous for catching fire was Monoprice’s next model up from that one!
http://hackaday.com/2016/12/07/dont-leave-3d-printers-unattended-they-can-catch-fire/
https://www.reddit.com/r/3Dprinting/comments/4rko8m/warning_monoprice_maker_select_v2_fire/

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